1492 on Blu-Ray - Overseas
- AndyDursin
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1492 on Blu-Ray - Overseas
Doubtful with Paramount handling that this will be coming out here anytime soon...they never did a director's cut on DVD of it either (even though it was released everywhere else).
http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=4793
http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=4793
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Re: 1492 on Blu-Ray - Overseas
Why hasn't this movie ever been released on DVD in America? Paramount released it on laserdisc, but never DVD.
Am I mistaken, or is this the only Ridley Scott film not available in Region 1? I have three foreign DVDs of 1492 (none of which are really satisfactory).
Oh well, I still consider it an underrated gem. Not without a few flaws, but certainly a better film than Kingdom of Heaven, and I frankly consider it superior to Gladiator (certainly it has a better score).
Am I mistaken, or is this the only Ridley Scott film not available in Region 1? I have three foreign DVDs of 1492 (none of which are really satisfactory).
Oh well, I still consider it an underrated gem. Not without a few flaws, but certainly a better film than Kingdom of Heaven, and I frankly consider it superior to Gladiator (certainly it has a better score).
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I like the score and the cinematography but I find the film on balance to be a mess, personally, with a Politically Correct storyline and group of incoherent accents from one of those "international" casts. Still I'd pick it up just for the visuals alone.
Paul -- you're right, there was no DVD of this -- period. Perhaps they'll issue it for the first time.
Eric -- I think it's probably a lack of interest. Both this movie and CHRISTOPHER COLUMBUS THE DISCOVERY bombed, and neither were released on DVD, ever.
Paul -- you're right, there was no DVD of this -- period. Perhaps they'll issue it for the first time.
Eric -- I think it's probably a lack of interest. Both this movie and CHRISTOPHER COLUMBUS THE DISCOVERY bombed, and neither were released on DVD, ever.
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Having lived in a college town when this film was released, I still find it odd to hear 1492 labeled "PC", as it was lambasted by the local film critics and campus radicals as "racist". Evidently they felt that Columbus should have been depicted as more of a Hitler figure.AndyDursin wrote:I like the score and the cinematography but I find the film on balance to be a mess, personally, with a Politically Correct storyline and group of incoherent accents from one of those "international" casts. Still I'd pick it up just for the visuals alone.
Paul -- you're right, there was no DVD of this -- period. Perhaps they'll issue it for the first time.
Eric -- I think it's probably a lack of interest. Both this movie and CHRISTOPHER COLUMBUS THE DISCOVERY bombed, and neither were released on DVD, ever.
But it works for me. Michael Wincott's character is a little one-dimensional, but there are some powerful moments in the film, which contains some of Scott's most arresting imagery.
1492 was perhaps the final film of the "original" Ridley Scott -- back when he strove to create beautiful images and allowed his composers to score broadly and thematically.
I wonder if we'll ever get an expanded, three-CD set of this score?
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See that's what living in Ithaca does to people! lol. I honestly can't believe anyone would think the movie was racist. For me it was like Scott was bending over backwards to the growing Political Correctness crowd. Dramatically the movie doesn't work at all for me, but visually I find it arresting and worthwhile -- albeit only on those grounds.Having lived in a college town when this film was released, I still find it odd to hear 1492 labeled "PC", as it was lambasted by the local film critics and campus radicals as "racist". Evidently they felt that Columbus should have been depicted as more of a Hitler figure.
I'd love to watch the film again in HD...but I don't know about importing this. Weren't there subtitles in the film in certain points? If it's only in French it wouldn't be worth it.
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There aren't any subtitles, but there are scroll titles that set-up and resolve the story, and on the German DVD (which I own) they are in German. I'd assume they are in French on the Blu-ray.AndyDursin wrote:I'd love to watch the film again in HD...but I don't know about importing this. Weren't there subtitles in the film in certain points? If it's only in French it wouldn't be worth it.
I remember, Andy, the day we first met and we had our first argument about a movie -- and it was 1492!
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Yup.Monterey Jack wrote:Didn't Christopher Colombus: The Discovery have a young Catherine Zeta-Jones in it?
And arguably Cliff Eidelman's best score that he ever did IMO at least. Too bad his Star Trek VI score wasn't more along these lines.
Talk about a guy soaring with potential that just disappeared. All he ended up doing was scoring a bunch of romantic comedies and such and then he just faded out.
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Haha I remember that vividly!I remember, Andy, the day we first met and we had our first argument about a movie -- and it was 1492!
It's funny how badly both movies did at the box-office.
1492 grossed a grand total of $7.1 million in the US.
CHRISTOPHER COLUMBUS THE DISCOVERY barely edged it with $8.2 million.
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Reading on the IMDB I totally forgot Timothy Dalton was going to play Columbus in CHRISTOPHER COLUMBUS THE DISCOVERY and quit a few days before shooting.
That goes in line with how many Bond veterans they had lining up to make that movie.
Also...
"Producers Alexander and Ilya Salkind's first choice for director was Ridley Scott. Four months after rejecting their offer, Scott started working on a rival Christopher Columbus project which ultimately became 1492: Conquest of Paradise (1992). As a consequence of this, the Salkinds unsuccessfully tried to sue Scott for stealing their idea. They were forced to drop their lawsuit when it was proved that "1492"s producer Alain Goldman and writer Roselyne Bosch's first proposal of a Christopher Columbus project predated theirs. "
That goes in line with how many Bond veterans they had lining up to make that movie.
Also...
"Producers Alexander and Ilya Salkind's first choice for director was Ridley Scott. Four months after rejecting their offer, Scott started working on a rival Christopher Columbus project which ultimately became 1492: Conquest of Paradise (1992). As a consequence of this, the Salkinds unsuccessfully tried to sue Scott for stealing their idea. They were forced to drop their lawsuit when it was proved that "1492"s producer Alain Goldman and writer Roselyne Bosch's first proposal of a Christopher Columbus project predated theirs. "